Is adding water to feed actually good or not? What does everyone think?
What do you think about adding water to feed?
In the scorching summer, the moisture content of finished pelleted feed is on the low side, which not only affects animal feed intake but also directly costs feed mills profits. Many manufacturers choose to add water directly during production to increase the moisture content of the finished product. I would like to ask everyone to share how to add water and how much to add?
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We also have to control moisture in summer. High moisture in summer easily leads to mold, so maybe it is a regional difference.
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For adding water, it is best to mix sodium bentonite with water first and then add it. On the one hand, this ensures the effectiveness of the water addition, and on the other hand, it makes mold less likely. As for the amount added, this depends on your raw material moisture, conditioning moisture, and so on. It is recommended to try adding a small amount first and gradually increase it until you reach a safe controlled moisture level for your finished product.
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3# zhangyy
What is the ratio of bentonite to water?
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Mix the bentonite with water until it becomes fluid, but be careful not to clog the spraying pipeline. You will have to figure out the specifics yourself.
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I believe every feed mill is adding water to feed, just to make money, but problems easily arise.
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It is best not to add water.
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Are you telling us farmers that we cannot just spray a little water on it right before use? And you are talking about adding water with bentonite? We farmers really are easy to fool!
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Consider adding an emulsifier; we are testing the effect.
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Add more mold inhibitor to prevent mold.
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It is best not to add it. It is very hard to control, and if it molds, you are finished.
Also, adding water and then adding mold inhibitor, what is the point? Costs go up again. It is like cutting yourself and then putting on a bandage!
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This post was last edited by dushuqiang on 2009-7-26 22:03
The original poster is way too reckless, adding water to feed in summer!
If you are going to add water, it should be in autumn and winter.
Add water in spring and summer, and you are courting disaster.
Add water in autumn, and trouble is only a matter of time.
Add water in winter, and you harm others and yourself.
These ideas come from people with bad intentions, and sooner or later they will ruin themselves.
It is said that quite a few companies under New Hope Group add water in autumn and winter, and how much water is added varies with the general manager's moral character.
Later it was said that in order to add water to feed, Tang Ren Shen Group required some newly built plants with better equipment to use liquid mold inhibitors. Those general managers understood the headquarters' intentions very well and immediately installed a tap next to the liquid mold inhibitor drum. As a result, for every company using liquid mold inhibitor, the return rate was 30%-70%, because some of it had already molded while still in transit. (The ones watered are generally complete pig feed, not poultry feed, because poultry raisers are not as "pig-like" as pig raisers. Therefore poultry feed is easily exposed if water is added. Price competition in pig feed has wiped out gross margins, so in order to increase output rate, reduce losses, and obtain profit, there was no choice but to add water. At the same time, in order to reduce production costs, they had to produce in large single batches. Some had already been sitting in the warehouse for more than 15 days by the time they were shipped out. With that much "liquid mold inhibitor" added, it would be against all reason if it did not mold!) By the way, let me tell a joke. Once I visited a sister company for some leisure time and joked with that company's general manager, saying: "You had better go look inside your liquid mold inhibitor tank and see whether it has molded!" That general manager nearly laughed himself to death right then.
Later, after 49 seconds of thinking, I boldly speculated that the so-called liquid mold inhibitor that was once so hyped was actually just a marketing plan plotted in secret by a few guys making mold inhibitors. The target customers were precisely unscrupulous businessmen like the original poster. The sales steps were to help the customer calculate: how much profit does your company lose in a year from moisture loss alone? Then further tell you: why can't you beat others? Finally, tell you how much benefit using his liquid mold inhibitor can bring your company. In short, communicate strictly according to the SPIN selling process, and as a result, hardly any company boss failed to make the decision on the spot to use it. The final result is that their mold inhibitor sales took off, your feed came back as returns, and the liquid spraying process you spent more than 100,000 yuan renovating rusted.
Finally, let me tell you unscrupulous businessmen a way to make money: absolutely do not add water, switch to adding zeolite powder! This is what I did when I served as general manager of a subsidiary of a certain group company. No way around it! Those idiots in the headquarters finance office kept questioning me: other companies have an output rate of 99.9%-100.5%, why can't I achieve that? Rest assured, tested in my own practice, adding zeolite powder is both safe and raises the output rate. Add 1-2% with your eyes closed, and the moisture loss is earned back! At that time, general managers from sister companies even came to ask me the secret of raising the output rate without causing returns! At the time it was a technical secret, and I did not even tell the headquarters formulator. Damn! But doing it this way ultimately still raises the feed conversion ratio just like adding water, and more importantly, I always felt that doing this was as ridiculous and disgusting as a flat-chested woman wearing a push-up bra. Everyone should stop racking their brains researching high-tech stuff. Feed is inherently a low-tech thing, so everyone must not turn feed into a high-tech industry through adulteration! What solid-liquid mixed spraying, and so on. If you really come up with a world-first high-tech achievement with our country's independent intellectual property rights, I am really afraid that by then even if the Ministry of Science and Technology comes to give you an award, you will be too embarrassed to accept it!
Finally, let me state one thing: if you add zeolite powder, add real zeolite powder. Do not be so damn crooked as to switch to stone powder. If by then the pigs cannot even shit, do not blame me for not making it clear.
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We also have to control moisture in summer. High moisture in summer easily leads to mold, so maybe it is a regional difference.
--------------------------------------
For adding water, it is best to mix sodium bentonite with water first and then add it. On the one hand, this ensures the effectiveness of the water addition, and on the other hand, it makes mold less likely. As for the amount added, this depends on your raw material moisture, conditioning moisture, and so on. It is recommended to try adding a small amount first and gradually increase it until you reach a safe controlled moisture level for your finished product.
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3# zhangyy
What is the ratio of bentonite to water?
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Mix the bentonite with water until it becomes fluid, but be careful not to clog the spraying pipeline. You will have to figure out the specifics yourself.
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I believe every feed mill is adding water to feed, just to make money, but problems easily arise.
--------------------------------------
It is best not to add water.
--------------------------------------
Are you telling us farmers that we cannot just spray a little water on it right before use? And you are talking about adding water with bentonite? We farmers really are easy to fool!
--------------------------------------
Consider adding an emulsifier; we are testing the effect.
--------------------------------------
Add more mold inhibitor to prevent mold.
--------------------------------------
It is best not to add it. It is very hard to control, and if it molds, you are finished.
Also, adding water and then adding mold inhibitor, what is the point? Costs go up again. It is like cutting yourself and then putting on a bandage!
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This post was last edited by dushuqiang on 2009-7-26 22:03
The original poster is way too reckless, adding water to feed in summer!
If you are going to add water, it should be in autumn and winter.
Add water in spring and summer, and you are courting disaster.
Add water in autumn, and trouble is only a matter of time.
Add water in winter, and you harm others and yourself.
These ideas come from people with bad intentions, and sooner or later they will ruin themselves.
It is said that quite a few companies under New Hope Group add water in autumn and winter, and how much water is added varies with the general manager's moral character.
Later it was said that in order to add water to feed, Tang Ren Shen Group required some newly built plants with better equipment to use liquid mold inhibitors. Those general managers understood the headquarters' intentions very well and immediately installed a tap next to the liquid mold inhibitor drum. As a result, for every company using liquid mold inhibitor, the return rate was 30%-70%, because some of it had already molded while still in transit. (The ones watered are generally complete pig feed, not poultry feed, because poultry raisers are not as "pig-like" as pig raisers. Therefore poultry feed is easily exposed if water is added. Price competition in pig feed has wiped out gross margins, so in order to increase output rate, reduce losses, and obtain profit, there was no choice but to add water. At the same time, in order to reduce production costs, they had to produce in large single batches. Some had already been sitting in the warehouse for more than 15 days by the time they were shipped out. With that much "liquid mold inhibitor" added, it would be against all reason if it did not mold!) By the way, let me tell a joke. Once I visited a sister company for some leisure time and joked with that company's general manager, saying: "You had better go look inside your liquid mold inhibitor tank and see whether it has molded!" That general manager nearly laughed himself to death right then.
Later, after 49 seconds of thinking, I boldly speculated that the so-called liquid mold inhibitor that was once so hyped was actually just a marketing plan plotted in secret by a few guys making mold inhibitors. The target customers were precisely unscrupulous businessmen like the original poster. The sales steps were to help the customer calculate: how much profit does your company lose in a year from moisture loss alone? Then further tell you: why can't you beat others? Finally, tell you how much benefit using his liquid mold inhibitor can bring your company. In short, communicate strictly according to the SPIN selling process, and as a result, hardly any company boss failed to make the decision on the spot to use it. The final result is that their mold inhibitor sales took off, your feed came back as returns, and the liquid spraying process you spent more than 100,000 yuan renovating rusted.
Finally, let me tell you unscrupulous businessmen a way to make money: absolutely do not add water, switch to adding zeolite powder! This is what I did when I served as general manager of a subsidiary of a certain group company. No way around it! Those idiots in the headquarters finance office kept questioning me: other companies have an output rate of 99.9%-100.5%, why can't I achieve that? Rest assured, tested in my own practice, adding zeolite powder is both safe and raises the output rate. Add 1-2% with your eyes closed, and the moisture loss is earned back! At that time, general managers from sister companies even came to ask me the secret of raising the output rate without causing returns! At the time it was a technical secret, and I did not even tell the headquarters formulator. Damn! But doing it this way ultimately still raises the feed conversion ratio just like adding water, and more importantly, I always felt that doing this was as ridiculous and disgusting as a flat-chested woman wearing a push-up bra. Everyone should stop racking their brains researching high-tech stuff. Feed is inherently a low-tech thing, so everyone must not turn feed into a high-tech industry through adulteration! What solid-liquid mixed spraying, and so on. If you really come up with a world-first high-tech achievement with our country's independent intellectual property rights, I am really afraid that by then even if the Ministry of Science and Technology comes to give you an award, you will be too embarrassed to accept it!
Finally, let me state one thing: if you add zeolite powder, add real zeolite powder. Do not be so damn crooked as to switch to stone powder. If by then the pigs cannot even shit, do not blame me for not making it clear.