Is choline chloride really useless? The actual effects explained clearly in one go
Choline chloride is useless.
I would like to ask whether omitting choline chloride from feed has any major impact on the feed. I heard that a company discovered the choline chloride it was using was fake, and this had been going on for more than a year, with the actual choline chloride content being almost zero (heard about it, not verified). Yet their feed showed no abnormalities whatsoever. Later they simply removed the choline chloride.
I don't know whether it's true. Experts are welcome to discuss it.
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If it's a fake product, then it's better not to use it at all.
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Better to use it.
It's not very expensive either, and using it gives peace of mind and reduces a hidden risk.
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Considering product cost, choline chloride can partially replace methionine, reducing the amount of methionine used and lowering costs.
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I agree with the poster above. However, on medium and large pigs it seems there's no harm in not using it, but on piglets it should still be used.
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Generally not used on medium and large pigs.
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Then how is it used for poultry? May I ask for advice?
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The content of choline chloride on the market is very problematic, and the results of general testing methods are unreliable. For meat pigs, the choline in the feed is enough to meet their needs, so of course there's no difference whether it's added or not. Moreover, if choline serves as a donor of active methyl groups, its conversion rate is not high, only 3-4%. But for poultry feed, choline or betaine must be added additionally.
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How is it used for cattle???
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It is suggested to refer to http://www.xumuren.cn/bbs/thread-200621-1-1.html, which has a relatively detailed introduction.
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Rumen microorganisms in ruminants can synthesize it, so there is no need to consider adding it.
I don't know whether it's true. Experts are welcome to discuss it.
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If it's a fake product, then it's better not to use it at all.
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Better to use it.
It's not very expensive either, and using it gives peace of mind and reduces a hidden risk.
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Considering product cost, choline chloride can partially replace methionine, reducing the amount of methionine used and lowering costs.
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Originally posted by xhwin2000 at 2008-12-7 10:39I disagree with the poster above. If you're going to use it, use the real thing. A fake one might even have side effects. You can't just use it for peace of mind.
Better to use it.
It's not very expensive either, and using it gives peace of mind and reduces a hidden risk.
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I agree with the poster above. However, on medium and large pigs it seems there's no harm in not using it, but on piglets it should still be used.
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Generally not used on medium and large pigs.
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Then how is it used for poultry? May I ask for advice?
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The content of choline chloride on the market is very problematic, and the results of general testing methods are unreliable. For meat pigs, the choline in the feed is enough to meet their needs, so of course there's no difference whether it's added or not. Moreover, if choline serves as a donor of active methyl groups, its conversion rate is not high, only 3-4%. But for poultry feed, choline or betaine must be added additionally.
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How is it used for cattle???
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It is suggested to refer to http://www.xumuren.cn/bbs/thread-200621-1-1.html, which has a relatively detailed introduction.
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Rumen microorganisms in ruminants can synthesize it, so there is no need to consider adding it.